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    Default Drives are unmounting themselves somehow

    I have 3 Burly Enclosures with barracudas (1tb and 2tb). All are JBOD.
    For over a year i've had no problems of drives unmounting/ejecting themselves.
    Now I have 2 drives that unmount on a regular basis. Swapped cables, swapped slots/enclosures. I have not tried hooking up to firewire enclosure since somehow I stripped the darn screws. Yeah I know I'm an idiot.
    I'm trying to backup the 2 drives but it fails during copy due to unmount.

    Anybody have the same problem?


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    How interesting - if it was systemic it would be a problem with all the drives. It is just these 2 drives that dismount? And they have dismounted even when they are installed in a different bay, a drive bay where you don't ever see a problem?

    First, make sure the eSATA card is in slot 3 or 4 - not slot 2.

    Open Apple System Profiler, go to Extensions under Software and make certain that the driver for the card is correct. It should read SiliconImage3124u.kext version 2.1.4

    It may be worth the effort to take those two drives out of their trays and install in the internal MacPro trays. Worth it to see if the issue is the drives themselves.

    Thanks for posting. We'll figure it out.


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    The card is in slot 4 and the driver is 2.1.4

    No other cards except the graphic display.

    I suspected the drives right off the bat.

    Most of the media is already backed up so I'm not panicking yet.

    I really need to get the the drives out of the tray and mount them somewhere else. Just like you said.

    I have no idea how those 4 screws got so tight. I might have to tap them out.

    Thanks for your help.

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    Hope you are having good luck with the screws. Be a real pain to strip the philips slots.
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    Now it seems I have 2 other drives that are unmounting. After rendering all night I found 2 new drives in the same enclosure are unmounting.
    I noticed the left indicator light in the tray is lit up on 3 drives now.
    Could I have a failing slots within a enclosure? It is over 3 years old I believe.

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    The only way I know to test is to remove all the drives from the enclosure. Then take one known good drive and test each drive bay one at a time. Keep things simple. Insert in bay 1, test, dismount and move to bay 2 and so on.

    One other thing to try. Reset the firmware on the Port Multiplier board inside the Burly. With it shutdown, pull the cover off the enclosure, then unplug the power connector from the PM board, wait 5 seconds and plug it back in. This is the yellow, red and 2 black wires with a white connector.

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    Thanks Rick, I'll both suggestions. What does the left light indicator mean?

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    Green light is just power. Amber light is drive activity.

    Drive activity gets its signal direct from the drives in Burlys made since 2007. At that time SATAII drives came out and activity was added to the drive. Different model/firmware drives will send different signals to the lights. They are a good indicator of what might be happening only if they change from the normal behavior for that particular drive. Mixing drives can give different light behavior is the only point.

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    Thanks Rick. I'll run some tests tonight and let you know.

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    Saw this in macworld today, but didn't know where to insert my questions.

    Is it true that external drive slows down the mac when it spins up?

    What does it mean to "eject" an external drive, say FW in a Burly? I understand unmount, but eject?? Does it stop spinning?

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    Unmount and eject are the same thing as far as I know.

    And yes if you have a drive mounted but spun down it will slow the mac down while it waits for that drive to spin up. The Mac seems to want to spin up a drive for any/every reason too.
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    I have always assumed that the OS waits to check/access a drive while it mounts....and it has to spin up first, so there is a pause while the drive spins and then mounts.

    Just part of the Finder. As an example, back before 10.6, if you clicked on a broken link to server or network share, the Finder would send out a search party for 120 seconds. Spinning wheel when while it searched. Only way to stop it was to force quit the Finder. Apple finally changed it, so now it looks in the background......and you don't have to stare at the beach ball for 2 minutes.

    Seems as though the Finder waiting to access a mounting drive is similar, though not nearly as bad.
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    Quote Originally Posted by unclemac View Post
    Seems as though the Finder waiting to access a mounting drive is similar, though not nearly as bad.
    That's basically it. How bad it is depends on how slow your drive spins up. Ejecting the mounted drive (even if you don't turn it off) solves this during usage but it will still perform the same behavior at shutdown... your mac spins up the drive so it can shut it down.
    Damien,

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