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    Default Same items consistently appear in permissions

    These same items consistently appear when I do a permissions repair.
    I do a permissions repair. Shut down computer or do a restart. Do permissions repair and these same items appear again. What is wrong. OS 10.5.4

    private/var/root/library
    private/var/root/library
    volumes
    cores
    network

    Thanks in advance
    John

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    Hey John,

    You might try booting to your OS CD/DVD and running utilities from there. Don't know if this will help in 10.5, but there were occasions in previous OSes. Be sure you only do this from a 10.5 CD/DVD.

    You might also post more details for clues. Can you copy and paste the info out of the DU window? If not:

    1. Open Applications/Utilities/Console
    2. Click the Open Log List button on the top left
    3. Open LOG FILES/~/Library/Logs in the tree view, and highlight Disk Utility.log

    Within that log you can see the full detail of everything that DU did during your previous permission repairs. Should look something like this:


    2008-07-09 11:00:59 -0700: Disk Utility started.

    2008-07-09 11:02:01 -0700: Repairing permissions for “TPS Reports”
    2008-07-09 11:02:01 -0700: Reading permissions database.
    2008-07-09 11:02:01 -0700: Reading the permissions database can take several minutes.

    2008-07-09 11:05:21 -0700: Permissions differ on "private/var/log/secure.log", should be -rw------- , they are -rw-r----- .
    2008-07-09 11:05:21 -0700: User differs on "private/etc/authorization", should be 0, user is 501.
    2008-07-09 11:05:21 -0700: Group differs on "private/etc/authorization", should be 0, group is 20.
    2008-07-09 11:05:21 -0700: Permissions differ on "private/etc/authorization", should be -rw-r--r-- , they are -rw-rw-r-- .
    2008-07-09 11:05:23 -0700: Permissions differ on "Library/Application Support/Apple/ParentalControls/ALRHelperJobs", should be drwxrwxr-x , they are drwxr-xr-x .
    2008-07-09 11:08:13 -0700: Group differs on "private/etc", should be 0, group is 80.
    2008-07-09 11:08:13 -0700: Group differs on "private", should be 0, group is 80.
    2008-07-09 11:08:14 -0700: Permissions differ on "Library/Application Support/Apple/ParentalControls/ContentFiltering", should be drwxrwxr-x , they are drwxr-xr-x .
    2008-07-09 11:08:14 -0700: Permissions differ on "Library/Application Support/Apple/ParentalControls", should be drwxrwxr-x , they are drwxr-xr-x .
    2008-07-09 11:08:14 -0700: Group differs on "private/etc/cups", should be 0, group is 26.
    2008-07-09 11:09:12 -0700: ACL found but not expected on "Applications".
    2008-07-09 11:09:12 -0700: ACL found but not expected on "Library".
    2008-07-09 11:09:47 -0700:
    2008-07-09 11:09:47 -0700: Permissions repair complete
    2008-07-09 11:09:47 -0700:
    2008-07-09 11:09:47 -0700:
    Last edited by unclemac; 09-12-2008 at 01:58 PM.
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    Default Still having same problem

    Unclemac

    Thanks for your reply.
    I did everything you said. The problem still exists. Console reported that the permissions were fixed right after I did a permissions repair. I run disk permissions without restarting or shutting down and disk permissions verify reports that the same permissions need to be fixed. See attachment.

    Is disk permissions preferences corrupt and need to be rebuilt?

    John

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    No, actually you are probably OK.

    10.5 introduced ACLs in addition to traditional POSIX permissions. What you are seeing is DU notifying you that per Apples recommendations. DU runs a script to set permissions system wide (excluding user data....that you can set how ever you want and DU completely ignores) to what Apple set originally and recommends for functionality plus security.

    DU is reporting unexpected ACLs, but that does not necessarily mean that is anything is broken, corrupt, or damaged in any way, just set differently. I have done a fair amount of testing, and usually what you see is nothing to worry about, just different than what the the recommendations are.

    Worst case, either a user (you) or an app could not function correctly if things are too "tight" or your computer may be less secure if things are too "loose"

    Apple does not give us a handy, easy tool to check and modify permissions in 10.5. There are some third party tools however, if you want to see or modify or remove these ACLs easily-or there is the good ol' command line. Sandbox is free, but I like TinkerTool System better.
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    Unclemac

    Thanks for your reply. I guess I have nothing to worry about. What exactly do you mean by things being too "tight" or too "loose". You're much more knowledgable than I am I need some clarification.

    Thanks

    John

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