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    Final Cut Studio 5.1

    System Requirements

    * Macintosh computer with PowerPC G4 (867MHz or faster), PowerPC G5, or Intel Core Duo processor
    o 1GHz or faster processor for HD features
    o PowerPC G5 or Intel Core Duo processor for authoring HD DVDs or for playback of DVD Studio Pro 4-authored HD DVDs
    * Mac OS X version 10.4.4 or later
    o Mac OS X version 10.4 or later required to use Image Units and 16- and 32-bit float rendering in Motion
    * QuickTime 7.0.4 or later
    * 512MB of RAM; 1GB of RAM for HD features (2GB recommended)
    * Display with 1024-by-768 (or higher) resolution
    * AGP Quartz Extreme or PCI Express graphics card

    Final Cut Pro
    Final Cut Pro Discussions
    MacIntouch: Final Cut Review
    MacIntouch: Final Cut Pro 4
    Final Cut Pro 3 Performance Tweaks
    Installing FCP3 MDD 1.0DP
    Last edited by TZ; 04-09-2006 at 06:24 AM.

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    Lightbulb Motion

    The easiest way for artists and editors to animate text and graphics for DVD motion menus, video or film, Motion 2 lets you design in real time and take advantage of GPU acceleration ³ at true film quality 16-bit and 32-bit float ³ when it comes time to render your files. Thatês an industry first.

    Design in Real Time

    Optimized for the Power Mac G5 and Mac OS X v10.4 –Tiger,” Motion 2 sets a new mark for desktop responsiveness and interactivity, letting you play back, move and resize video layers interactively; watch filters, particles and title animations spring instantly to life; and render output quickly thanks to built-in GPU acceleration at 8-bit, 16-bit or 32-bit float film quality.

    Design in Real TIme

    * GPU Accelerated 16-bit & 32-bit Float Rendering
    * Use More than 4GB of RAM

    Motion System Requirements:
    Recommended system

    * Dual 2 GHz Power Mac G5
    * 2 GB of RAM or more
    * Mac OS X 10.3.5 or later
    * ATI Radeon 9800 Pro graphics card or better
    * Display with 1280-by-1024 resolution

    Minimum System Requirements

    * Macintosh computer with 867 MHz or faster PowerPC G4 or G5 processor

    Motion benchmark tool

    IMaginator -

    As you can see from the Motion 2 graph, the gap between the mid-range cards (9600 Pro and 9800 Pro) and high-end cards (X800 XT, GeForce 6800 GT) isn't necessarily that large. That would seem to reinforce ATI's strategy. But if our Core Image test (iMaginator) is indicative, those users may feel the Radeon 9600 doesn't have enough "horsepower." The Radeon 9800 Pro or X800 XT may be more to their liking.

    Core Image Test G5

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    Final Cut Pro 4: G5 versus G4, Single CPU versus Dual CPU, Power Mac versus PowerBook

    QUESTION #1: How much faster does Final Cut Pro 4 (FCP4) run on a dual G5 Power Mac compared to a dual G4 Power Mac?

    QUESTION #2: Does FCP4 utilize the second CPU? In other words, is a single CPU Power Mac just as fast as a dual CPU Power Mac?

    QUESTION #3: Is there a big difference between the G5/2.0MP and G5/1.8MP when running FCP4?

    QUESTION #4: If I use a PowerBook G4 for FCP4, will I be at a big disadvantage to the Power Macs?

    5. Rendering with Final Cut Pro is a CPU intensive operation. Adding "gobs" of memory or super fast disk arrays will not speed up rendering. If you want to render faster, get a faster CPU -- preferably two of them -- with a faster front side bus.

    How Fast Does Motion Move On Your Mac?

    Some applications are very dependent on Core Image "aware" graphics processor. Two examples are Motion and iMaginator. Believe it or not, there are owners of G4 Power Macs who want to run these resource hungry apps. Check out the gain from the GeForce 6600 and Radeon 9800s:

    To make Motion move, you need the best of everything. Start with a fast Dual G5 with 4GB of RAM -- 8GB would be even better. Add fast graphics card -- Radeon 9800 Pro SE or XT or GeForce 6800 Ultra -- the more VRAM the better.



    We're told that Motion will "eat" up to 4GB, if you have it to spare, though we never got that far. If that's true, you G5 owners might want to go up to 6GB or 8GB -- especially if you are running Photoshop and Final Cut Pro at the same time you are using Motion. With Motion still running, we launched Photoshop CS (memory cache set to max). We opened a 421MB document and rotated it 30 degrees. We now only had 1.8GB left out of a total of 8GB. Pause and think on that!

    When we tried to load a fourth template in Motion. It crashed.

    It could be argued that performance analysis cannot and should not be compartmentalized. When performance tuning, the idea is to avoid bottlenecks in any subsystem. The faster the disk, the faster source footage can be read into RAM. The more RAM, the more source footage can be cached. The faster the system bus, the faster the source footage can be fed from RAM to the GPU. The more shader units and higher clock speed on the GPU, the more filter/blend mode operations can be processed at once. The more VRAM, the more rendered footage can be off-loaded from RAM.

    Which brings us back to our initial conclusion: If you want maxiumum performance with minimum waiting, get a "kick butt" dual G5 with the best graphics card you can afford.

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    Lightbulb Upgrade vs. New

    G4/2.0GHz Upgrade
    versus G5/2.0GHz Power Mac

    So is it a good investment to buy a CPU upgrade for your Power Mac? Let's do a couple of case studies.

    CASE ONE: If you sell your QuickSilver on eBay for $700 and buy an new G5/1.8 Power Mac, your net cost is $800. If you upgrade your QuickSilver with a GigaDesigns G4/1.8GHz cpu upgrade, Radeon 9600 Pro graphics card, and a Serial ATA controller with 80GB Serial ATA boot drive, it will cost you around $700. Almost a wash, but the G5 would be faster.

    CASE TWO: If you sell your QuickSilver on eBay for $700 and buy an new Dual G5/2.0GHz Power Mac, your net cost is $1300. If you upgrade your QuickSilver with a GigaDesigns Dual G4/1.8GHz cpu upgrade, Radeon 9800 Pro graphics card, and a Serial ATA controller with 160GB Serial ATA boot drive, it will cost you around $1200. Again, almost a wash, but, again, the G5 would be faster.


    9600 Pro vs other video cards:

    G4/MDD vs G5 - 9600 and 9800
    ATI's newest ATI 9800 Pro Mac Edition
    (256MB DDR, 2X/4X AGP)
    The Radeon 9800 Pro is a great upgrade for G4 Power Mac owners who want Core Image and OpenGL.

    ATI Online Store
    ATI Radeon 9800 Pro (Mac Edition) versus others
    GeForce 6600 GT for G4 Power Macs

    The following cards only work on a G5 with 8X AGP slot:
    The "G5 only" Radeon X800 XT Mac Edition (8X AGP, 256GB, ADC + Dual-Link DVI port) is available from ATI Online Store, Apple's Online Store,, Other World Computing, and Small Dog Electronics. (The MSRP is $399)

    G5 with 16X PCI Express slot:
    You have three CTO options when you buy a new system: GeForce 6600, GeForce 7800 GT, and Quadro FX 4500.

    Some of you have asked which "older" G5 Power Mac models are most desirable. Whether you buy used, refurbished or new, I recommend getting a model with 8 memory slots, 100/133MHz PCI-X slots, 1:1 frontside bus, and 600W Power Supply. The table below gives the model number, etc., of these most desirable older G5s.

    X800 XT Review:

    X800XT vs 9800 Pro:
    * 475MHz Core Clock (vs 375MHz for 9800 Pro*)
    * 1000MHz Memory data rate (vs 375MHz for 9800 Pro*)
    * 160 million transistors on 0.13 micron low-k copper fabrication process
    * 16 pixel pipelines (vs. 8 for 9800 Pro)
    * 6 vertex processing engines (vs. 4 for 9800 Pro)
    * 7.6 GigaPixel/sec Pixel Fill Rate (vs. 3.0 for 9800 Pro)
    * 32GB/sec Memory Bandwidth (vs. 22 for 9800 Pro)
    * 182 GigaFLOPS (vs 77 for 9800 Pro)
    * 712 Vertices/Sec transform rate (vs 340 for 9800 Pro)
    * High precision 32-bit per channel rendering
    * 256-bit quad-channel GDDR3 memory interface

    Radeon 9700 Pro vs OEM
    Last edited by TZ; 04-09-2006 at 06:25 AM.

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    Lightbulb MacIntel Core Duo Performance

    With FCP5.1, the MacBook Pro is 3 times faster than a PMG5 Dual 2.0GHz.

    On the forum of, a user has reported that a PMG5 Quad with 4.5GB of RAM has carried the task in 63 seconds, that compares to 53 seconds for a Core Duo. translation

    Systems compared:
    Apple G5 Dual 2Ghz, 1.5GB, NVIDIA GeForce 6600 LE 128MB
    iMac G5 20" 2.1 GHz, 1.5GB, 128MB
    iMac Intel 20" 2GHz Core Duo, 1.5GB, X1600 128MB
    MacBook Pro 2GHz Core Duo, 1.5GB, Mobility X1600 128MB

    FCP benchmarks
    Those core duo Intels are very efficient - and powerful.

    Another video application ffmpegX will soon be upgraded to universal binary.

    Test on own computer
    Render Test File
    Last edited by TZ; 04-12-2006 at 07:52 AM.

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    Lightbulb Final Cut Studio

    I'm a fan of books. Maybe something in Amazon: Final Cut Pro

    Final Cut Pro for Avid Editors
    Diana Weynand
    The quickest, most efficient way for experienced users of Avid Media Composer to learn Apple’s Final Cut Pro. Contains an illustrated step by step operational guide so you can get to work right away.


    Xserve RAID

    Offline workflow for film using uncompressed HD

    FCP Discussions:

    AJA - KONA 3
    Last edited by TZ; 04-15-2007 at 03:49 PM.

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    Highlights: [indent]
    Compressor 3 is 3x faster. With a Mac Pro 8-core with (this) sample it will take us 16:45 in Compressor 2. In Compressor 3 it's down almost 3x to 6:02. I've encoded a 10 minute clip in less than ten minutes. Compressor 3 demo time. [Compressor] now features simplified cluster setup, extended to MPEG-2, H.264, Telestream Episode Pro plug-in with VC-1, WMV, FLV... dynamic filters with timecode overlays, animated motion watermarks.

    Soundtrack Pro 2 Apple's really pushing the 3D stuff it seems. 3d glasses for the audience to demo some of the features

    Motion 3 -- this year we're embracing 3D, extended all the familiar tools into cameras, light sources, navigation of 3D space... create the kind of graphics you want to create. We're adding paint. Particles, video, pictures, pen -- speed, pressure sensitivity -- and throw behaviors on the strokes to bring that paint to live. Something shockingly complicated in the past is now easy: match moving."

    "We introduced effects plugs -- they've added dozens of them. GPU-accelerated realtime playback of filters and effects."

    Uncompressed HD and ProRez: they look exactly the same according to our source. "We took some of the great technology in Shake and brought SmoothCam down to Final Cut Pro, removes camera shaking."

    Motion templates inside Final Cut Pro

    Realtime SD-HD conversion
    hardware encoder box will get into prorez 422 automatically
    ntroducing a HD-input device
    Final Cut Pro can manipulate 4k files
    Uncompressed HD, Pro-rez 422 format

    Final Cut Pro uncompressed HD

    Final Cut Server- Media asset manager - Final Cut Server is a cross-platform way to do digital content management

    AJA video system, an amazing device able to convert video on the fly to HD, it works with Mac too.

    FC studio and HD camcorders from Sony, Panasonic and other companies

    Final Cut Studio 2, can manage ProRes 422, non compressed HD video supported in 12 bits

    Apple's new ProRes 422 video format

    Going into extreme detail, Apple has said its new HD video standard was designed not just to beat opposing formats but to clear bottlenecks -- some of which are stifling for video editors.

    Those fortunate enough to work at a Mac Pro are poised to see even more of a benefit, Apple boasts. An improved half-resolution decoding method means that Final Cut Pro 6's unlimited real-time preview sees an exponential increase in the number of active previews: where only a single 1080i, 60Hz video would be visible on an eight-core Mac Pro in uncompressed form, the use of ProRes 422's high quality mode allows four. Dropping the quality to 720p at a film-level 24Hz sees the number of streams jump from three to fourteen on the same system and increases further with the normal 145Mbps ProRes bitrate.

    this performance boost is explicitly adapted to multi-core systems. ProRes is said to scale almost linearly with the number of cores available to process video, cutting the latency in drawing a finished frame in half every time the available processing power doubles.

    A Mac Pro with an HD SDI video card, used for capturing live broadcasts, can automatically transform raw HD into a ProRes 422 clip without losing visual data, optionally sending it back to other hardware at the same quality.

    Final Cut Server
    - $999 for 10 concurrent users
    - $1999 for unlimited users

    Final Cut Studio 2
    - Final Cut Pro 6, Motion 3, Soundtrack Pro 2

    Apple ProRes 422 Format
    - Next-gen Post Production format
    - Uncompressed HD quality at SD file sizes
    - 10-bit, 4:2:2, full raster, VBR

    - Hardware box that provides realtime conversion into ProRes 422
    - Available in July
    - $3495
    Last edited by TZ; 04-18-2007 at 03:41 AM.

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