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    Default Firmware troubles

    I have a G4 Sawtooth that I intend to upgrade with a faster processor. I've been trying to update the firmware to 4.2.8 with the updater from Apple and it refuses to run. I have both OSX and OS 9 on an internal IDE drive. I boot into OS 9.2.2, AND run the updater. When I restart while holding the programmers button I get the tone..... then I get a start up chime and a blank grey screen with no updater activity. Then all goes black, then a second chime and it boots into OS 9 with an error message that the firmware update was unsuccessful. It currently has firmware version 3.2.4f1 which I find no mention of on Apple's site.

    Any suggestions? T.I.A

    David H

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    Hmmmmmm.....

    Sounds right. Just to be clear:

    booting to OS 9.2.2
    the firmware update file is on the 9.2.2 drive (desktop is OK)
    you are shutting down by using the button within the firmware updater

    That should do it. Using this updater, correct?
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    Yes to all. The boot drive has both OS 9 & X. I was thinking of trying the update from a drive with only 9. Thanks.

    David

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    Firmware 3.2.4f1 according to this is for an iMac G3 slot loader. Can that be true? And, if so, I wonder how you will be able to erase that and update the firmware. How can a Mac even run with the wrong firmware? k

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    Yes, I see what you mean. I rescued this machine from a local computer scap yard so I have no historical info.

    I think I will try the iMac 4.1.9 updater and then see if 4.2.8 will work from there, since 4.1.9 was used on the iMac, Cube and the Power Mac G4's. Thanks.

    David

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    Good catch Kaye. I remember that...way bacjk when. It was a pain to get imacs updated.

    I did not think it possible to get an imac firmware on, well, anything but an imac. A bit spooky.

    I would do the same: go for the 4.1.9, and see if you can then get to 4.2.8. Having OS X on the drive should not matter...as long as you boot to 9.

    We are in uncharted waters I suspect.....
    Last edited by unclemac; 04-04-2006 at 06:49 PM.
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    you are shutting down by using the button within the firmware updater
    I recently did the 4.2.8 firmware update on my DA from 9.2.2 I thought it automatically rebooted. Not sure but it went easy I just followed instructions.

    My first guess you have the wrong firmware on there. (But know nothing of iMac stuff) Hey guys are there firmware uninstallers? - Randy

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    Here's the info from OSX SP:

    Machine Model: Power Mac G4 (AGP graphics)
    CPU Type: PowerPC G4 (2.9)
    Number Of CPUs: 1
    CPU Speed: 550 MHz
    L2 Cache (per CPU): 1 MB
    Memory: 1 GB
    Bus Speed: 100 MHz
    Boot ROM Version: 3.2.4f1
    Serial Number: XB02001QJ2S
    Sales Order Number: 0100225215XB02001Q1234123412341234

    And from OS 9 SP

    Hardware overview
    Machine ID: 406
    Model name: Power Mac G4 (AGP graphics)
    Keyboard type: Apple Extended Keyboard
    Processor info: PowerPC G4
    Machine speed: 550 MHz
    Nanokernel version: 2.27
    Nanokernel pool extends: 11
    Nanokernel scheduled CPUs:1
    uni-n: 7

    Production information
    ROM revision: $77D.45F6
    Boot ROM version: $0003.24f1
    Mac OS ROM file version: 8.7
    Serial number: XB02001Q-J2S-ffff
    Software bundle: Not applicable
    Sales order number: 0100225215

    Thanks for the tips about Gary at Daystar. I've been they're customer since the days of the IIvx and they have always been very supportive.

    David H

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    FWIW, I found this deep in the archives of accelerate your mac (note the added comment from Mike):

    "Boot ROM version: $0003.24f1
    [denotes 2.4 G4 firmware update applied-Mike]"

    I don't know what that might mean for this situation, but it seems that 3.2.4f1 can reside on a G4 (I've seen it mostly listed with UK and French macs); I can only wish good luck...

    Terry

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