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    Sweeeeet

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    Default G5 Fw800

    Still can't let go of my G5's FW800 I/O problem. I am a member of the Arizona MUG (AMUG) for quite awhile. One of their options is periodic emails of their latest tests and good deals, whether AMUG deals or deals they find on the web. Recently one of those emails pointed me towards the same Maxtor DiamondMax 10 PATA 300GB-16MB buffer drive I have in a FW800 Elite-AL Pro single drive case previously tested. The drive was only available at the retail store. So I purchased one, their regular price about $125, $86 out the door, with the intention of installing both drives in an Elite-AL Pro RAID two drive case, default setup for RAID0. The Maxtor PATA drives are not the fastest on the block but I have many Maxtors both PATA and SATA and like them. And these are current models manufactured in mid 2006.

    The RAID case is slightly longer, twice as wide of course, and this one has a quiet fan. It power supply is still inline but larger and no power brick plugging into AC. Instead an AC plug which goes to the inline PS. One of my intentions was to retire the Granite #20-1032 Combo Case, install its 120GB 180GXP-8MB drive in the Elite single drive case, after removing the Maxtor drive destined for the Elite RAID case along with its mate just purchased. The RAID case has hardware RAID0 (can be changed) with a single FW800 cable to a FW800 port and the Maxtors yield 559GB total. My setup for FW800 is still Granite FW800 cable out the back of the G5 mobo FW800 port and connected to a Granite FW800 3-port Repeater/Hub. The two Elite cases are connected to this Hub. When testing FW400, the cases are connected directly to the FW400 ports on the G5.

    Results FW800 single drive case Read/Write in MB/s:
    180GXP-8MB, Granite Combo Case, SR3.5, 10.4.6, QB3.0-100MB, 55 52 (previously tested)
    180GXP-8MB, Elite-AL Pro Case, Apple DU, 10.4.7, QB3.0-100MB, 55 54
    DM10-16MB, Elite-AL Pro Case, Apple DU, 10.4.7, QB3.0-100MB, 66 53 (previously tested)

    Results FW400 single drive case Read/Write in MB/s:
    180GXP-8MB, Granite Combo Case, SR3.5, 10.4.6, QB3.0-100MB, 41 32 (previously tested)
    180GXP-8MB, Elite-AL Pro Case, Apple DU, 10.4.7, QB3.0-100MB, 40 34

    Results FW800 two drive RAID0 case Read/Write in MB/s:
    2xDM10-16MB, Elite-AL Pro RAID Case, Apple DU, 10.4.7, QB3.0-100MB, 84 54

    Results FW400 two drive RAID0 case Read/Write in MB/s:
    2xDM10-16MB, Elite-AL Pro RAID Case, Apple DU, 10.4.7, QB3.0-100MB, 41 34

    So both FW800 and FW400 have problems but I will not be connecting as FW400. And the FW800 RAID0 is fast enough for me and the 559GB is certainly good size. k

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    BareFeats has a Halo test at http://barefeats.com/quad10.html
    Halo (2.0 UB)

    My G5 2.7GHz DP, Radeon X800XT ME, 8GB RAM, 10.4.7, Halo v1.5.2 since their website did not recommend updating to 2.0 UB for my G5. Other than version I duplicated the BareFeats settings except the Quad has 4GB RAM. 7800 = GeForce 7800 GT (16X PCIe, 256MB GDDR3).

    TimeDemo Results (FPS):
    1920x1200
    BF Quad G5 2.5 (7800) 50FPS
    My G5 (X800XT) 53.55FPS
    1280x800
    BF Quad G5 2.5 (7800) 80FPS
    My G5 (X800XT) 78.68FPS

    Frankly I don't know why the Quad doesn't do far better, perhaps the immaturity of the GeForce drivers or Halo 2.0 UB.

    I've also run the new Xbench v1.3 and posted on their DB but the DB is down now so I cannot link. k

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    Xbench 1.3 results for this G5. Tested it with my boot drive about 38% full, SATA 300GB Maxline III-16MB (7L300S0). It did pretty well. I posted it to the PowerMac G5 (Late 2004) Index. Also tested with a RAM Disk.

    Scores 144.27 (Maxtor boot drive) and 172.91 (RAM Disk).
    http://db.xbench.com/comparesubindex...minVersion=1.3
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    Default Kaye, would you have the time to...

    capture a profile of your memory and post?

    I know you have Gurus memory in your 2.7.. I had purchased Crucial years ago (when the G5 first came out). Am curious about your CL2 as described in the xbench database, and if I would benefit to migrate all banks to Gurus in the next memory purchase.

    Here's mine.
    MacBook Pro Uni 2.4GHz with express card slot

    iMac G5

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    This is Patriot PDC2G3200LLK 2GB Kit, Dual Channel DDR 2GB PC3200 400MHz (2-3-2-5) (tCAS-tRCD-tRP-tRAS) Non-ECC Unbuffered 184-Pin Kit (2 x 1GB) DIMMS. Patriot Memory

    But caution, it has only been tested in my G5 and one earlier model G5 and will not work in a G4 including my MDD.

    The Gurus CL2.5 RAM, I moved two 1GB sticks to the MDD. The iBook G4 also has Gurus RAM. k

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    Long power failure yesterday, from about 8:40am until 4:10pm, about 7.5 hours. My UPS (APC BACK-UPS RS 1500VA) worked like a charm. It was set for and did shutdown at 5 minutes charge left after a yellow light and beeping incessantly for almost four hours. It was just running the DSL modem and router plus whatever the G5 draws when shutdown, about 28-30 watts total.

    After power was restored, I took care of more pressing issues. Getting back to the G5, I noticed the Kill A Watt showing about 56W instead of the usual 28-30W so the UPS battery was charging. Then when I started up the G5, the menu bar showed 6 minutes. You do want to wait awhile because if the UPS battery is at or below your shutdown setting, in my case 5 minutes, it will just shutdown again. k

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    One more test with Xbench 1.3, this time with another SATA 300GB Maxline III-16MB (7L300S0), empty, in my Granite Alum SATA case connected to a SeriTek/1VE4. I had purchased another hot-swap sled when I bought the case.

    Xbench 1.3 score 146.39 http://db.xbench.com/comparesubindex...minVersion=1.3
    k

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    New version of Cinebench:

    CINEBENCH 9.6
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    Tester : kyum

    Processor : G5-2.7DP
    MHz : 2700
    Number of CPUs : 2
    Operating System : 10.4.7

    Graphics Card : ATI X800XT
    Resolution : 1920 x 1200
    Color Depth : Millions

    ************************************************** **

    Rendering (Single CPU): 414 CB-CPU
    Rendering (Multiple CPU): 749 CB-CPU

    Multiprocessor Speedup: 1.81

    Shading (CINEMA 4D) : 408 CB-GFX
    Shading (OpenGL Software Lighting) : 1385 CB-GFX
    Shading (OpenGL Hardware Lighting) : 3217 CB-GFX

    OpenGL Speedup: 7.88

    ************************************************** **
    Not much in comparison to the Quad or the MacPro. Still good for this G5. k

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    Intech SpeedTools Utilities has an update to QuickBench, now 3.1.


    Note the bottom left corner of the window, A/V Stream Testing. Ran it on my boot drive. And Device Tuner (for FW drives) is a goner. k

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    Default Fcs 5.1

    Spent day before yesterday installing Final Cut Studio 5.1 crossgrade, updating, and cleaning up the HD with various utilities.

    The package delivered with 7 installer DVDs and 2 tutorial DVDs. Start with the Final Cut Studio Installer DVD and after input of name and serial number, you are shown the full install as 26.9GB and 1 hour 11 minutes. Got a lot of learning ahead. The installer continues and the tray opens and you are prompted with the name of the next DVD to insert. Actually took 1h:18m because I walked away and came back several times with the tray open waiting for the next.

    During one of the installs it reached 98% and appeared to hang there. I eventually launched Activity Monitor with Disk Activity selected, and there was I/O still going on and eventually that DVD was completed. After completion I repaired permissions, only one item. Verified the drive, OK.

    Rebooted and did Software Update. There were 8, all associated with FCS, totaling 152MB. Repaired permissions and verified the drive, nothing reported. Booted to my backup and launched iDefrag. It reported that the primary boot drive was now about 10% fragged. Ran it which took 3h:10m. Rebooted to the primary boot drive and reinitialized the backup. Ran SuperDuper Smart Update and it took 1h:13m for the full install on the backup.

    There are 9 applications in the Applications folder and 2 in the Utilities folder, all Universal. The installation removed the Motion 2 and its Compressor that I used for the crossgrade and replaced them with the FCS Motion 2 and Compressor. Plus it modified iDVD.

    Final Cut Studio and X-Plane 8.50 (57.93GB) together total almost 85GB of the total 134GB used on this boot drive, now at 48% used, a 300GB drive, 279.4GB after initialize. Got a lot of reading to do to figure out how all this stuff works. k

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    I received an email from Cyberguys yesterday about a sale on Kill A Watt so ordered another. Had two but #1 son has moved to his condo and took one with him.
    http://www.cyberguys.com/templates/s...productID=5382
    Sale price $19.97 + standard shipping $6.55 + CA tax $1.55, total $28.07. k

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    I am a member of the Arizona Macintosh Users Group (AMUG) and back on 12/27/06 I received an email with current specials. There was a one day promo special for the Maxtor MaXLine Pro 500 500GB Hard Drive (Serial ATA II, 7,200 RPM, 16MB - MPN: 7H500F0), AMUG price $129.99, free shipping, tax in Calif 9.42 = $139.41. I had been looking for a 500GB drive to replace my 2 year old 300GB MaXLine III and relegate the older drive to external backup duties kept in a safe. That leaves me with the new 7H drive for boot and a near new 7L 300GB drive for backup boot in my G5. Not giving up on Maxtor yet tho it is not the fastest 500GB drive available.

    Spent time researching on the web which bay runs cooler to confirm my own results with Hardware Monitor and to find out which SATA bay runs faster, if there is a difference. Upper Bay A runs cooler by about 1C with similar drives. Lower Bay B is slightly faster I/O. 7L was already in the upper Bay B. So installed the new 7H in lower Bay B, faster but warmer. Since the 7H is a SATA II and will be on the internal SATA I bus, the top face of the drive shows where the provided jumper goes on the pins for SATA I. Did that. Using DU in 10.4.8, I initialized the drive after writing zeros to the whole drive.

    Next, Hardware Monitor latest version 4.0 (061108) did not recognize the drive for temperature reporting purposes. So had to get into the Resources folder and modify the file hddtemp.db in TextEdit. Took me 3 times to guess it correct.

    Next a brief test in QB3.1.

    QuickBenchô 3.1 Test Results
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    Test file created on Tuesday, January 2, 2007 at 2:20:47 PM
    Test Volume Name: 7HMLIII-16MB
    Test Volume Type: MacOS Extended
    Test Volume Size: 465.636 Gigabytes
    Test Volume Free Space: 465.530 Gigabytes
    Allow Write Cache Purges: Disabled

    Extended Test Results:
    Test Cycles: 1
    Ext. Xfer Size Extended Read Extended Write
    100 MBytes 71.756 MB/Sec 75.807 MB/Sec

    Earlier Drives:
    MaXLine III 300GB 7B300S0 100 MBytes 56MB/Sec-72MB/Sec
    MaXLine III 300GB 7L300S0 100 MBytes 68MB/Sec-72MB/Sec

    SuperDuper from 7L to 7H (500GB) took 1:15:07. DW4 took 6:06. This drive is running faster than the 7L in QB and DW. 7H is about 31% full, 7L about 52% full.

    The new drive does run warmer. Surrounding SuperDuper, Temps before/after/after cooldown:
    New drive 42.0C/47.0C/42.0C
    7L drive 40.0C/44.0C/40.0C
    Room temp about 26C/78F

    Rebooted to the 7H and ran QB on the 7H yesterday morning:

    QuickBenchô 3.1 Test Results
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    Test file created on Wednesday, January 3, 2007 at 5:41:44 AM
    Test Volume Name: 7HMLIII-16MB
    Test Volume Type: MacOS Extended
    Test Volume Size: 465.636 Gigabytes
    Test Volume Free Space: 321.736 Gigabytes
    Allow Write Cache Purges: Disabled

    Extended Test Results (boot drive):
    Test Cycles: 1
    Ext. Xfer Size Extended Read Extended Write
    100 MBytes 68.511 MB/Sec 74.189 MB/Sec

    Nice drive, not much hotter running, and runs faster than earlier drives in my G5. k

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    G5 tests, 10.4.8, SoftRAID 3.6 all Workstation and where RAID 128KB SU, 2x SeriTek/1VE4 both in 100MHz PCI-X slots. Four of the six 150GB Raptors are same firmware, earliest two purchased are earlier firmware.

    QuickBench 3.1 Test Results
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    Test file created on Saturday, February 3, 2007 at 12:22:06 AM
    Test Volume Name: 1xRaptor150.1
    Test Volume Type: MacOS Extended
    Test Volume Size: 139.601 Gigabytes
    Test Volume Free Space: 139.555 Gigabytes
    Allow Write Cache Purges: Enabled

    Extended Test Results:
    Test Cycles: 1
    Ext. Xfer Size Extended Read Extended Write
    100 MBytes 83.555 MB/Sec 95.173 MB/Sec
    -----------------------------------------------------
    QuickBench 3.1 Test Results
    ©2000-2006 Intech Software Corp.
    Test file created on Saturday, February 3, 2007 at 12:52:31 AM
    Test Volume Name: 2xRap150
    Test Volume Type: MacOS Extended
    Test Volume Size: 279.201 Gigabytes
    Test Volume Free Space: 279.140 Gigabytes
    Allow Write Cache Purges: Enabled

    Extended Test Results:
    Test Cycles: 1
    Ext. Xfer Size Extended Read Extended Write
    100 MBytes 166.93 MB/Sec 224.72 MB/Sec
    -----------------------------------------------------
    QuickBench 3.1 Test Results
    ©2000-2006 Intech Software Corp.
    Test file created on Saturday, February 3, 2007 at 1:42:59 AM
    Test Volume Name: 6xRap150
    Test Volume Type: MacOS Extended
    Test Volume Size: 837.604 Gigabytes
    Test Volume Free Space: 837.509 Gigabytes
    Allow Write Cache Purges: Enabled

    Extended Test Results:
    Test Cycles: 1
    Ext. Xfer Size Extended Read Extended Write
    20 MBytes 339.32 MB/Sec 529.16 MB/Sec
    30 MBytes 421.80 MB/Sec 531.91 MB/Sec
    40 MBytes 448.93 MB/Sec 535.35 MB/Sec
    50 MBytes 440.97 MB/Sec 536.47 MB/Sec
    60 MBytes 435.42 MB/Sec 539.65 MB/Sec
    70 MBytes 439.37 MB/Sec 541.91 MB/Sec
    80 MBytes 449.72 MB/Sec 540.51 MB/Sec
    90 MBytes 370.71 MB/Sec 536.59 MB/Sec
    100 MBytes 428.94 MB/Sec 543.55 MB/Sec
    -----------------------------------------------------
    ZoneBench 1.3.1:

    -----------------------------------------------------
    AJA Kona tests to follow. k

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    First, there are new 2.0 versions for both the AJA KONA System Test and the AJA Data Rate Calculator. Almost all of the features in either utility are available without having a KONA board installed.

    The Data Rate Calculator on the left below is pretty much a default of what I would expect the 6xRap150 tested in my last post to be able to do. On the right would be a sample if the only change were to be 50 fps Frame Rate. Humongous file size if 30 minutes.




    Although I'm stupid about what all of this means, I deliberately chose settings in the test above that would challenge the capability of the volume 6xRap150. k

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    UL4D installed in the PCI-X 133MHz slot and where applicable 2x SeriTek/1VE4 in the 100MHz slots. UL4D Firmware, Config Tool, and Flash updated before connecting drives. SoftRAID 3.6 initialized Workstation all tests and where applicable 128KB SU. MacOS 10.4.8.

    QuickBenchô 3.1 Test Results
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    Test file created on Monday, March 12, 2007 at 9:31:43 AM
    Test Volume Name: 1xAtlas15K2sr
    Test Volume Type: MacOS Extended
    Test Volume Size: 34.117 Gigabytes
    Test Volume Free Space: 34.092 Gigabytes
    Allow Write Cache Purges: Enabled

    Extended Test Results:
    Test Cycles: 1
    Ext. Xfer Size Extended Read Extended Write
    100 MBytes 92.076 MB/Sec 89.767 MB/Sec
    Previous test on the RAID DB is 89/91.
    -----------------------------------
    Test Volume Name: 2xAtlas15K2sr128 (both drives on same channel)
    Test Volume Type: MacOS Extended
    Test Volume Size: 68.235 Gigabytes
    Test Volume Free Space: 68.201 Gigabytes
    Allow Write Cache Purges: Enabled

    Extended Test Results:
    Test Cycles: 1
    Ext. Xfer Size Extended Read Extended Write
    100 MBytes 183.11 MB/Sec 185.90 MB/Sec
    Previous test on the RAID DB is 172/187.
    -----------------------------------
    Test Volume Name: 4xAtlas15K2sr128 (both channels in use)
    Test Volume Type: MacOS Extended
    Test Volume Size: 136.471 Gigabytes
    Test Volume Free Space: 136.425 Gigabytes
    Allow Write Cache Purges: Enabled

    Extended Test Results:
    Test Cycles: 1
    Ext. Xfer Size Extended Read Extended Write
    100 MBytes 363.86 MB/Sec 375.33 MB/Sec
    Previous tests on the RAID DB are 344/385 and 328/401.
    -----------------------------------
    Test Volume Name: 6xRap150-4x15K2sr128 (10 drives, 8 channels)
    Test Volume Type: MacOS Extended
    Test Volume Size: 341.178 Gigabytes
    Test Volume Free Space: 341.114 Gigabytes
    Allow Write Cache Purges: Enabled

    Extended Test Results:
    Test Cycles: 1
    Ext. Xfer Size Extended Read Extended Write
    100 MBytes 744.96 MB/Sec 775.49 MB/Sec


    SoftRAID 3.6 was great throughout the tests. No I/O errors for any of the configs including the last. Tested 4xAtlas15K2 and the 10 drive RAID in the Pshop test including large file tests, 3.0GB and 6.0GB. Drives performed flawlessly with no glitches, no I/O errors, no startup nor shutdown issues including mounting and unmounting. k

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    Lightbulb QuickBench 4

    Barefeats mentioned that Intech would be bringing out QuckBench 4 "soon" and that it should be much more reliable and accurate (and won't be possible to compare new numbers to old results) :-(

    www.speedtools.com


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    I saw that TZ but I read that comment as applying to random reads/writes. I will go back to read it again. I do recall Chris at Intech quite awhile ago telling me there would be several improvements upcoming to QuickBench. k

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    UPS diagram changed:
    1. Granite FW800 ComboDrive retired.
    2. Replaced with Mercury Elite-AL Pro Dual RAID 0 Stripe FW800.
    3. Another Granite Powered FW800 Repeater/Hub added.
    4. Sandisk FW800 CF Reader added.
    5. Another dual bay SeriTek/1EN2 with 2xRaptor150 drives added.


    k

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    Going from 6 to 8 Raptor150's was not spectacular in QB.

    6xRap150sr32KBsu
    100 MBytes 428.94 MB/Sec 543.55 MB/Sec

    8xRap150sr32KBsu
    100 MBytes 461.64 MB/Sec 556.20 MB/Sec

    So not much gain adding 2 more Raptors running 2x SeriTek/1VE4 in the 100MHz slots. I had resisted Boots' recommendation to run the SeriTeks in the 100MHz and 133MHz bus slots. To do so I had to remove my ATTO UL4D and replaced it with another SeriTek/1VE4. Now 3x SeriTek/1VE4 because I also have a SATA backup boot drive.

    Connected 4xRap150 to one of the SeriTeks in a 100MHz slot and 4xRap150 to the SeriTek in the 133MHz slot. Well the answer is it works great for the Pshop test (will post to that thread) and achieves much better thruput in QB. The downside, there is none as far as I can tell.

    Now on 2 busses:
    8xRap150sr32KBsu
    100 MBytes 724.28 MB/Sec 952.30 MB/Sec


    Thanks Boots. You Da Man. k

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