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    I see a few places calling it an AGP card. I read Timmaio's thread and it appears he was using it with the BW but he had trouble getting more than grayscale or 8 colors out of it. ??

    Xclaim VR Pro 43101 seems to = an AGP card.

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    Lightbulb Hebjam, If you want OSX.......

    replace the card by a Radeon 9200 Mac Edition or a used Radeon 7000 Mac Edition if you want Panther particularly.

    With OSX, video in and out of the card is not supported.

    Use this card in an older "Beige" box running OS8 or OS9 instead.

    Hello Randy,
    Looks like the chip on the card supports both AGP and PCI boards.

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    Im doing OS 9.2.2 for now.
    What would be the problem using this card? I guess it is low memory...
    I may pick up a Rage 128

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    Yes, low on memory and poor performance compared to the 9200 Radeon.

    OSX is using OpenGL for several things (Quartz Extrem could be patched to work on the 9200 too) with the new card the entire system especially the Finder feels/is faster.

    Regrads

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    Thanks, OK now that site calls it a PCI card. Interesting little card ya got. - Randy

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    Geeze, maybe they should change their name to "We love to overcharge for Mac parts". Those prices for video cards seem really high to me. Like about double of what I would expect.

    A quick look at ebay for "radeon 7000 mac PCI" shows quite a few starting at about $44 bucks.... These appear to be flashed PC models, but most of the guys doing this offer a warranty, so the risk is not too great.

    Best would be to get a real made-for-Mac 9200 as suggested of coarse.
    "Imagine if every Thursday your shoes exploded if you tied them the usual way. This happens to us all the time with computers, and nobody thinks of complaining." -- Jef Raskin

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    Hmmm, I'm surprised to see the IDE chip is marked '646U2-402'.
    This means rev2 right. I thought it was a rev1. Cool.

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    Hebjam,

    so you can have 2 ATA drives (up to 128GB)

    UncleMac,

    Geeze, maybe they should change their name to "We love to overcharge for Mac parts".
    Or, you have a Mac, you have the money


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    Lightbulb

    There were at least three models/revisions. Some had support for slave but were still officially "rev 1" - in the FAQ there is a disk test for data corruption that will help determine.

    Problem was that the IDE bus on rev 1 couldn't work with any drive, even a single ATA drive, that was faster than ATA/16 (Beige type chip) that was capable of more than 16 or 20MB/sec (at the time most IDE drives installed were only capable of 12MB/sec max and were 5400 rpm, 512K cache) so it seemed like any IDE drive of 20GB or more (newer, 7.2K) started showing problems.

    Not only that, but some people had nothing but trouble with today's RAM in rev 1 and were forced to look for a rev 2 to swap in.

    RAM is the bigger and harder problem to educate new B&W users or those just now upgrading RAM or installing OS X on 'Smurf. For that, see the entries in the Memory Guide that go into all the dirty details

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    I just bought an original Rage 128 16mb. Anyone wanna buy my 'special' card?
    May be a collector's item!

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    Hey, so i finally got the Daystar g4-600 and though you might want to know the improvement.
    I havent done any benchmarks but in Cubase there is a CPU usage indicator.
    With the B&W +xlr8 g4-600 my average cpu usage is 15-20% less than with the Beige+Sonnet g4-700.
    So there we see the benefit of the 100mhz buss!

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    Oh by the way i'm selling the Sonnet zif on ebay (look under Sonnet Encore ZIF G4-700(735mhz)

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