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    Default G5 PCI FW400 card?

    FIREVueŞ GD4547 FireWire 800 PCI Host Adapters
    GD FW800 - 33-MHz/64-bit and 33-MHz/32-bit* selectable PCI interface

    Compatability: Backward compatible with 1394a/FireWire 400
    *in a 32-bit slot, the card will always work at 1394a speeds (100/200/400).

    Notes: If you insert the PCI Card into a 33-MHz/32-bit slot, the transfer data rate will be reduced to 1394a/FireWire 400 speeds.

    Macintosh with 64-bit/33MHz (recommended) or 32-bit/33Mhz PCI slot. Power Mac Blue & White G3 or later, all AGP Power Mac G4 systems and later supported.

    FireWire 800 requires Mac OS X 10.2.3 or later, (Mac OS X 10.2.5 or later recommended). FireWire 800 is NOT supported under Mac OS 9. Speed reverts to FW400 in OS9 or minimum OS8.6 up to OS9.2.2.

    Any Mac with a 33MHz or 66MHz PCI slot.
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    FIREVueŞ GD4546 FireWire 400 PCI Host Adapters

    Granite Digital's FireWire 400 PCI Host Adapter will run FireWire at speeds up to 40MB/s. This unique design incorporates three 6 Pin FW400 connectors. These boards support Plug and Play on and use the best TI chipset on the market for added compatibility. Full 64bit/33MHz PCI buses are supported. Auxiliary power can be plugged into the card to support up to 1.5 amps of power per port.

    FW400 host card is not compatible with PCI-X in G5s.

    Does that mean it can't be used in a G5? or only that it works, but "only" as 64-bit/33MHz, and not at 66/100/133 MHz? I can't believe that our FW400 GD card would not work in a G5.

    These boards support Plug and Play on most operating systems and use the best TI chipset on the market for added compatibility. Full 34bit/33MHz PCI buses are supported. - www.granitedigital.com
    FW host cards

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    Question Adaptec FireConnect 4300

    Adaptec FireConnect 4300

    Mac OS X 10.3.x
    Mac OS X 10.3.x Server
    Adaptec FireWire Mac

    PowerMac G5 PCI cards
    http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=86513

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    TZ,

    1394 FireWire to PCI(400 Mbit) Adapter GD4546 is a 5V only card, not Universal, so it will not work in any G5, because all G5's whether PCI or PCI-X need 3.3V.

    1394 B FireWire to PCI (800 Mbit) Adapter GD4547 is a 64-bit 3.3V Universal card, so it will work in a 3.3V or 5V PCI slot.

    Were you asking a question or pointing out an ambiguity on the store page? Reason I ask is that you know this G5 stuff better than I do. In fact I think you pointed out the page to me http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=86513 k

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    I was trying to help someone and while I know a little, I don't use FireWire that much, don't have a G5 and didn't see the "not PCI-X" bit on the page. And NOTHING on GD site to suggest it was 5v only. I could tell that the FW800 works (64-bit/33 MHz) "all AGP Power Mac G4 systems and later supported."

    I think it would be clearer to go 'non-tech' and say "will not work in G5" for the GD4546 rather than "not PCI-X." Even "... requires B&W or any G4, but not G5."

    Someone may not know PCI-X. And to me, a year after the G5s came out, trying to find a FW400 card for someone, or FW400 + USB, is hard. And we don't have FW800/USB2 cards which would be even nicer. If someone wants deep sleep, that rules out FW800 PCI even for FW400 devices.
    Last edited by TZ; 07-24-2004 at 07:34 AM.

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    I see your point very clearly. Just in case Rick does not see this, I'll put it on the Tribal. k

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    Confused OWC: Dazed and Confused

    OWC 2-Port FireWire 400 PCI Card for any PowerMac (including the G5!) or PC with an available PCI Slot. New, 1yr OWC Warranty. (OWCFWLUCPCI2) $9.95 OWC FW 2-port

    PCI Slot Requirements:
    PCI 2.1 compliant PCI slot, 5V ???

    Deep Sleep Support:
    This card does not support Deep Sleep in Power Macintosh systems that support that feature.

    Macintosh System Requirements:
    Compatible with all PowerMac Models & Clones with an available PCI Slot -Including the PowerMac G5!.

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    Yes confusing but despite what they say that card is a 32-bit 3.3V Universal PCI card so it will work in either a 3.3V G5 PCI or PCI-X slot or a PCI 5V slot. k

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    Default G5 1.6 PCI-only (not PCI-X)

    G5 1.6 was the only G5 that was "PCI" rather than "PCI-X" as it lacked any 100 or 133 MHz PCI slots.

    The photos, if they are clear and correct, are sometimes the best clues we have!

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    Very true but the 1.6 G5 still must satisfy the PCI-X bus spec for voltage, meaning 3.3V. k

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    There was an update on www.xlr8yourmac.com Friday that I missed that has updated information on FW PCI cards G5 USB/FW Report But, no good news to report, only the Adaptec DuoConnect doesn't support deep sleep. Sonnet and OrangeMicro seem to be more reliable than MacAlly or Belkin, too.

    G5 firmware update 5.1.4 released in dec. 2003 which was said to improve PCI-X performance.

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    I'll fix the page. At the time we wrote that page nobody knew the specs for the G5s. We added not G5- PCI-X capable because Unclemac bought one of the 400 cards and it wouldn't fit, the notches in the card are 5V, the only way we even knew.

    Have asked Granite three or four time to update their page on that card.

    Thanks,

    Rick
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    .i bought a belkin 3 port card a week or two before my g5 came in and i got it wont fit...i should have read this before i bought it...whats the best g5 fw400 card out there...i need to pick one up

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