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    While not a strictly SATA RAID, the Raptors/SeriTek appear to be the glue that really makes this RAID fly.

    4x X15.3 on UL4D, 100MHz slot.
    4x Raptor74 on SeriTek/1VE4, 100MHz slot.
    4x Atlas 15K II on UL4D, 133MHz slot.
    Striped all 12 drives, 8 channels, with SR 3.2.1, 128KB SU.

    QB 2.1 report:
    QuickBenchÈ 2.1 Test Results File
    ©2000-2005 Intech Software Corp.
    Test file created on Thursday, October 20, 2005 at 10:25:23 AM
    Test Volume name: 12xSCSIsataSCSIsr

    Extended Test Size: 100 MB Read: 689.803 MB/sec Write: 762.125 MB/sec

    Post to the DB under SATA, 9th entry down. k

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    Two new entries at the top of SATA Drives from Anonymous:

    Dual 2.5 G5, OS X.4.2, Sonnet eSATA 4+4 running seven Western Digital RE2 400 gig drives, slot 4, RAID 0 with Apple's Disk Utility. WD Caviar RE2 SATA 400 GB, 7200 RPM, 16 MB Cache
    http://westerndigital.com/en/product...58&Language=en

    He sez:
    I have all the drives partitioned into two volumes (320gb and 52gb) so that I actually have two raids volumes on the system--one big one composed of all the larger faster partitions and one smaller one made up of all the slower inner partitions. Right now the big raid volume is empty and the smaller one is about half full so running a speed test on the little volume (NTSC DRIVE) reflects the speed of the physical raid at 97% full. The big RAID volume has a 128k cluster size and the little one is 32k.

    One note on my card--when my system comes back from automatic sleep, any attempt at any kind of drive activity causes a system hang. Sonnet said that they had reports of similar problems in systems like mine and hope to fix this in the next firmware update. Other than that everything works well.

    HI DEF RAID (empty):
    QuickBenchÈ 2.1 Test Results File
    ©2000-2005 Intech Software Corp.
    Test file created on Tuesday, November 22, 2005 at 8:23:07 AM
    Test Volume name: HI DEF RAID
    Extended Test Size: 2 MB Read: 536.337 MB/sec Write: 527.983 MB/sec
    Extended Test Size: 3 MB Read: 607.287 MB/sec Write: 105.589 MB/sec
    Extended Test Size: 4 MB Read: 645.578 MB/sec Write: 632.511 MB/sec
    Extended Test Size: 5 MB Read: 671.682 MB/sec Write: 665.690 MB/sec
    Extended Test Size: 6 MB Read: 677.736 MB/sec Write: 689.180 MB/sec
    Extended Test Size: 7 MB Read: 690.403 MB/sec Write: 718.096 MB/sec
    Extended Test Size: 8 MB Read: 665.668 MB/sec Write: 680.677 MB/sec
    Extended Test Size: 9 MB Read: 359.712 MB/sec Write: 677.201 MB/sec
    Extended Test Size: 10 MB Read: 407.166 MB/sec Write: 693.914 MB/sec

    HI DEF RAID (effectively 97% full):
    QuickBenchÈ 2.1 Test Results File
    ©2000-2005 Intech Software Corp.
    Test file created on Tuesday, November 22, 2005 at 8:27:44 AM
    Test Volume name: NTSC DRIVE
    Extended Test Size: 2 MB Read: 16.726 MB/sec Write: 635.728 MB/sec
    Extended Test Size: 3 MB Read: 643.915 MB/sec Write: 468.092 MB/sec
    Extended Test Size: 4 MB Read: 663.020 MB/sec Write: 677.392 MB/sec
    Extended Test Size: 5 MB Read: 676.773 MB/sec Write: 687.853 MB/sec
    Extended Test Size: 6 MB Read: 664.231 MB/sec Write: 692.601 MB/sec
    Extended Test Size: 7 MB Read: 681.995 MB/sec Write: 701.966 MB/sec
    Extended Test Size: 8 MB Read: 669.176 MB/sec Write: 713.967 MB/sec
    Extended Test Size: 9 MB Read: 671.391 MB/sec Write: 707.770 MB/sec
    Extended Test Size: 10 MB Read: 276.121 MB/sec Write: 614.855 MB/sec
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    Four new entries by eric and his PB 15" G4-1.33MHz with ATA100 bus and FW800 port at the top of ATA Drives and two of them duplicated at the top of FireWire Drives. Anyone with a PB or iBook would certainly be interested.

    Eric sez:
    Hitachi Travelstar 7K100 (HTS721010G9AT00), 7200 rpm, PATA, 100GB, 8MB cache

    Spec sheet is here: http://www.hitachigst.com/hdd/support/7k100/7k100.htm

    A bit of explanation for those files though they should be somewhat self-explanatory.

    The ones that start with "hitachi_FW800_ext_" are the results with the Hitachi in an external FW800 case. I used a MacPower DaisyCutter combo FW800/USB2 case; though capable of bus-power I used a power brick to ensure best results. They say it has an Oxford 922 bridge:

    http://www.macpower.com.tw/products/...ter/dc_800plus

    I was booting off and ran QuickBench from the stock 4200 rpm drive; the enclosure with the Hitachi attached via Firewire. The Hitachi at the time was freshly formatted.

    The another files "hitachi_ATA_in_pb" are the results after I installed the Hitachi in the PB. I booted from the Hitachi, and ran QuickBench from the very same drive. Not my preferred testing method, but with a laptop, there's not much else you can.

    QuickBench 2.1 Test Results File
    ©2003 Intech Software Corp.
    Test file created on Tuesday, January 3, 2006 at 9:36:48 PM
    Test Volume name: pb (Hitachi installed in PB)
    Extended Test Size: 2 MB Read: 26.900 MB/sec Write: 88.943 MB/sec
    Extended Test Size: 3 MB Read: 35.892 MB/sec Write: 88.589 MB/sec
    Extended Test Size: 4 MB Read: 43.356 MB/sec Write: 35.108 MB/sec
    Extended Test Size: 5 MB Read: 27.037 MB/sec Write: 41.184 MB/sec
    Extended Test Size: 6 MB Read: 27.610 MB/sec Write: 41.365 MB/sec
    Extended Test Size: 7 MB Read: 28.862 MB/sec Write: 45.286 MB/sec
    Extended Test Size: 8 MB Read: 31.013 MB/sec Write: 45.005 MB/sec
    Extended Test Size: 9 MB Read: 32.002 MB/sec Write: 42.360 MB/sec
    Extended Test Size: 10 MB Read: 32.322 MB/sec Write: 39.626 MB/sec

    Extended Test Size: 20 MB Read: 38.943 MB/sec Write: 41.471 MB/sec
    Extended Test Size: 30 MB Read: 37.559 MB/sec Write: 41.877 MB/sec
    Extended Test Size: 40 MB Read: 38.411 MB/sec Write: 41.432 MB/sec
    Extended Test Size: 50 MB Read: 34.033 MB/sec Write: 37.619 MB/sec
    Extended Test Size: 60 MB Read: 34.759 MB/sec Write: 26.582 MB/sec
    Extended Test Size: 70 MB Read: 39.050 MB/sec Write: 39.765 MB/sec
    Extended Test Size: 80 MB Read: 39.426 MB/sec Write: 39.618 MB/sec
    Extended Test Size: 90 MB Read: 39.876 MB/sec Write: 39.019 MB/sec
    Extended Test Size: 100 MB Read: 39.923 MB/sec Write: 39.819 MB/sec

    QuickBench 2.1 Test Results File
    ©2003 Intech Software Corp.
    Test file created on Thursday, December 29, 2005 at 1:50:59 AM
    Test Volume name: Untitled (Hitachi in FW800 case)
    Extended Test Size: 2 MB Read: 3.527 MB/sec Write: 34.553 MB/sec
    Extended Test Size: 3 MB Read: 77.946 MB/sec Write: 34.637 MB/sec
    Extended Test Size: 4 MB Read: 71.259 MB/sec Write: 34.491 MB/sec
    Extended Test Size: 5 MB Read: 45.223 MB/sec Write: 34.355 MB/sec
    Extended Test Size: 6 MB Read: 45.421 MB/sec Write: 34.776 MB/sec
    Extended Test Size: 7 MB Read: 48.022 MB/sec Write: 34.508 MB/sec
    Extended Test Size: 8 MB Read: 47.103 MB/sec Write: 34.571 MB/sec
    Extended Test Size: 9 MB Read: 48.495 MB/sec Write: 32.918 MB/sec
    Extended Test Size: 10 MB Read: 47.804 MB/sec Write: 33.179 MB/sec

    Extended Test Size: 20 MB Read: 27.969 MB/sec Write: 34.662 MB/sec
    Extended Test Size: 30 MB Read: 52.812 MB/sec Write: 34.632 MB/sec
    Extended Test Size: 40 MB Read: 51.588 MB/sec Write: 34.604 MB/sec
    Extended Test Size: 50 MB Read: 51.387 MB/sec Write: 34.582 MB/sec
    Extended Test Size: 60 MB Read: 51.475 MB/sec Write: 34.575 MB/sec
    Extended Test Size: 70 MB Read: 51.162 MB/sec Write: 32.967 MB/sec
    Extended Test Size: 80 MB Read: 51.029 MB/sec Write: 34.685 MB/sec
    Extended Test Size: 90 MB Read: 51.359 MB/sec Write: 34.806 MB/sec
    Extended Test Size: 100 MB Read: 51.326 MB/sec Write: 34.473 MB/sec
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    For comparison sake, eric sent me three more QB results, this time of his PB OEM Toshiba MK6025GAS-8MB 60GB 4200RPM. Added to the DB under ATA Drives and under his current Hitachi. What a difference! Also duped the two FW800 results under FireWire Drives and under his previous entries. Again, a great difference.

    I have the same OEM Toshiba in my iBook except the 80GB version. That must be why, as well as faster G4, why mine tests better, but still pales in comparison to his Hitachi. k

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    Two new entries by Boots and me at the top of the DB under SATA Drives, Boots testing the Raptor 150GB on his Quad and I testing on my DP. k

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    A DB entry at the top of SATA for a Hitachi 160GB T7K250-8MB in his brand new Dual Core G5-2.3GHz. It is his boot drive now.

    I updated one of my SATA entries and moved it a bit down the page to my tests as well as adding 4 more results in that mixture of mine. So we have:
    1x Raptor1500 (updated and moved)
    2x Raptor1500
    5x Raptors (1x Raptor1500 and 4x Raptor74)
    6x Raptors (2x Raptor1500 and 4x Raptor74)
    10x Drives (2x Raptor1500, 4x Raptor74, 4x Atlas 15K II)
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    Tested a Gurus Granite combo case FW800, FW400, and USB2 (model no longer sold) with necessary included cables and G5 ports. In the DB at the top of FireWire Drives. k

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    DB updates:

    SATA
    G5-2.7GHz DP
    1x Raptor1500 - 73/94, 10.4.6 updated result
    2x Raptor1500 - 128/218, same as on DB but 10.4.6
    3x Raptor1500
    100MB - 187/346
    4x Raptor1500
    100MB - 246/456
    4xRaptor1500-4xRaptor74
    100MB - 453/556
    4xRaptor1500-4x15K II
    100MB - 535/679
    3xRap1500/4xRap74/4x15K II
    100MB - 480/847
    4xRap1500/3xRap74/4x15K II
    100MB - 517/856
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    SCSI
    4x15K II
    100MB - 328/401
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    G4-1.42GHz DP (GigaMDD)
    SeriTek/1VE4, SoftRAID 3.3, where RAID, 128KB SU, 10.4.5 (previous tests), 10.4.6 for 3x and 4x Raptor1500 tests.

    SATA
    1x Raptor1500
    100MB - 73/94 (previous test), 10.4.5
    G5 - 73/94
    2x Raptor1500
    100MB - 151/180 (previous test), 10.4.5
    G5 - 128/218
    3x Raptor1500 (418GB)
    100MB - 210/185
    G5 - 187/346
    4x Raptor1500 (559GB)
    100MB - 212/186
    G5 - 246/456

    Also striped 4xRaptor1500 and 4x15K II 274GB, SeriTek/1VE4 and UL3D-066, SoftRAID 3.3, 128KB SU, 10.4.6.
    100MB - 223/181
    G5 - 535/679
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    SCSI
    UL3D-066, SoftRAID 3.3, 128KB SU, 10.4.6.
    4x15K II 137GB
    100MB - 200/200
    G5 - 328/401
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    More 4x Raptor1500 results in the DB under SATA Drives and tested on my G5 with with the new QB 3.0, 100MB and 1GB, write cache purges enabled. Down the page with comments on the far right side boxes. k

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    Retested the 4x Raptor1500 using the new SoftRAID 3.5 and QB 3.0. For the most part, some improvements. See the SATA Drives for comparing SR3.3 and SR3.5. QB 3.0 test parameters were exactly the same for the tests so the difference is SR3.5.
    http://macgurus.com/raid/raidmain.php k

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    I have updated the DB with several more of my tests. Four more SATA at the top of my entries. And four more entries at the top of FireWire. k

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    DB has been updated since the last early July update, this time with FireWire updates tested in mid-July and late August. A recap of tests for comparison:

    8/19/2006 G5
    Results FW800 single drive case Read/Write in MB/s:
    180GXP-8MB, Granite Combo Case, SR3.5, 10.4.6, QB3.0-100MB, 55 52 (previously tested)
    180GXP-8MB, Elite-AL Pro Case, Apple DU, 10.4.7, QB3.0-100MB, 55 54 (new)
    DM10-16MB, Elite-AL Pro Case, Apple DU, 10.4.7, QB3.0-100MB, 66 53 (previously tested)

    Results FW400 single drive case Read/Write in MB/s:
    180GXP-8MB, Granite Combo Case, SR3.5, 10.4.6, QB3.0-100MB, 41 32 (previously tested)
    180GXP-8MB, Elite-AL Pro Case, Apple DU, 10.4.7, QB3.0-100MB, 40 34 (new)

    Results FW800 two drive RAID0 case Read/Write in MB/s:
    2xDM10-16MB, Elite-AL Pro RAID Case, Apple DU, 10.4.7, QB3.0-100MB, 84 54 (new)

    Results FW400 two drive RAID0 case Read/Write in MB/s:
    2xDM10-16MB, Elite-AL Pro RAID Case, Apple DU, 10.4.7, QB3.0-100MB, 41 34 (new)

    7/15/2006 GigaMDD
    On my GigaMDD with 1xNitroAV FW800 card, the Elite-AL Pro FW800 hooked directly to a FW800 port tested slightly faster than the G5, 66MB/s reads, 56MB/s writes. 10.4.7, Apple DU

    However RAID was slower than the G5 with 2x FW800, each drive connected directly to separate FW800 ports on the NitroAV card. 75MB/s reads, 53MB/s writes. 10.4.7, Apple DU, Elite-AL Pro and Granite ComboDrive cases.

    Where I previously achieved 108 and 91 with 2x FW800 was with 2x NitroAV cards, and 2x FW800 drives, each one on its own NitroAV. Very impractical. k

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    Updated the DB http://macgurus.com/raid/raidmain.php with two SATA entries for my G5 with internal MaXLine Pro 500GB Hard Drive, empty drive and booted to it at 31% full. k

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    DB updated with 3 new tests for SATA Drives. G5 tests, 10.4.8, SoftRAID 3.6 all Workstation and where RAID 128KB SU, 2x SeriTek/1VE4 both in 100MHz PCI-X slots. Four of the six 150GB Raptors are same firmware, earliest two purchased are earlier firmware.

    I have identified the added tests with NEW in the Peak Read column. Tests are 1xRaptor150, 2xRaptor150, and 6xRaptor150. k

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    Da Boss has graciously updated the DB test procedures at the top of the Drive and RAID DB page:
    http://macgurus.com/raid/raidmain.php

    Also the DB has been updated with 3 NEW SATA tests that I did.
    Two G5, 8x Rap150, 32KB SU and 64KB SU.
    One GigaMDD, 4x Rap150, 32KB SU. k

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    DB updated with 2 new entries at the top of SATA (the Seagate Cuda 1TB) in a Burly case, and 2 new entries at the top of FireWire with a SATA drive in a Burly case. k

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    The DB http://macgurus.com/raid/raidmain.php has been updated (at the very top of the page under SATA Drives) for the Cuda 750GB 32MB cache drive in a Burly case. Can be compared to the Cuda 1TB just below.

    The 750GB model, as Rick has stated elsewhere, is a bit faster. Mine does have later firmware than my 1TB model. Or could be a matter of the number of platters in combination with the number of heads. Or could be the greater size of the 1TB affects the QuickBench results. I don't have that answer. k

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    Eric has provided me with 10 NEW entries to the DB, 6 at the top of SATA, 4 at the top of FireWire. I think they are self explanatory but he can amplify here if there are questions or he so desires. k

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    Thanks Kaye!

    The WD Caviar Green 1.5TB has 3 eSATA entries when partitioned as a single 1.5TB partition because I had a testing hiccup with no cache and no async. settings -- the reads are quite low. Had I noticed before I partitioned and copied data to the HD I would have re-run the test to get Kaye a good set of results.

    The other two tests on a single partition, show 100MB/sec+ reads and 90 MB/sec+ writes, so the performance isn't bad with that drive in a NewerTech ministack v3. Because of that hiccup Kaye added the other results.

    FW800 performance is horrendous in a one-big-partition configuration and setup. That's why there are additional tests with the HD partitioned equally into two 750GB. The FW800 performance is vastly improved on a 750GB partition.

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