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    Here is what this guy had to say about HIS...

    Here is what this guy had to say about HIS experience w/ Jag... EXACTLY like mine:

    by: Gary S
    Jason,
    I just got a call from the Apple shop that was fixing my Power Mac G4-933 refurb that Apple...
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    Hey... how much do you think this computer would...

    Hey... how much do you think this computer would be worth as is? Like... if I didn't know what was wrong w/ it (if anything). I just paid almost $1500 for it. and that's about the "average"....
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    I edited one... but none of them seem really long...

    I edited one... but none of them seem really long to me. I'm not sure.

    Hey guys... I on the Apple Discussion forum... we HAVE FOUND THE MISSING LINK. There are many many people having this...
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    How do you edit them once posted? J

    How do you edit them once posted?

    J
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    Newbie, that link you sent might as well have...

    Newbie, that link you sent might as well have been in Greek because I didn't understand ANY of it!!!

    jason
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    But can they fix JUST those weird things on the...

    But can they fix JUST those weird things on the logic board, or is it a $700 replacement? That is what I want to know.

    J
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    Guys, tonight I installed Jag on my old 466, but...

    Guys, tonight I installed Jag on my old 466, but using the HDD from my 933. I installed Jag without a hitch. So, it's not the CD, or my mem(used the 933 mem just to see).

    I then put the HDD in my...
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    Tonight I'm going to install Jag to the HDD, but...

    Tonight I'm going to install Jag to the HDD, but I'm gonna install it on my old 466. Then I'm gonna put that HDD into my 933 and see if it works. If it does, then that tells me it's a problem w/ my...
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    I have not ruled out a bad IDE cable. In fact,...

    I have not ruled out a bad IDE cable. In fact, I'm not sure HOW to rule it out. I have an IDE cable I can use. But is it as simple as just uplugging one end from the board, and the HDD, and plugging...
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    Gregory, I found some more ram I can try to...

    Gregory,

    I found some more ram I can try to use. So, I will tonight. I have my old G4 466 still, So, I'm gonna try to install Jag to it. I know it will work though. I'm suspect of my Firmware...
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    Gregory.. he didn't know for sure that my...

    Gregory.. he didn't know for sure that my Firmware was bad. He just said to reinstall it again. However, he couldn't tell me just WHICH firmware to install, or which firmware I SHOULD show as...
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    I just got off the phone w/ an Apple Genius. And...

    I just got off the phone w/ an Apple Genius. And he says that my KP just browsing the CD could EASILY be the firmware. He said that I should DL and install the 4.2.8 firmware update as the firmware...
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    Gregory... I understand what you're saying. And...

    Gregory... I understand what you're saying. And I'm not ruling it out entirely. However, I just don't think it's the ram. I could be wrong. It would just seem HIGHLY unlikely that my stock "Apple...
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    And also.. i get a kernal panic just BROWSING the...

    And also.. i get a kernal panic just BROWSING the Jag CD. So, if I boot to it to GET the right firmware... then I get the KP. So, I basically can't install ANYTHING from the Jag CD. I need to DL it....
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    I suspect now my Superdrive or my Firmware. In my...

    I suspect now my Superdrive or my Firmware. In my Sys Profiler, it says my Boot ROM is 4.33f2. But what the hell firmware version IS that??

    Then on Apple's site... it says that the last version...
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    Many are convinced that since my modem isn't...

    Many are convinced that since my modem isn't being detected in the Hardware Test, that it's bad...therefore causing my Jag install to fail. There are others who think that since I ONLY get a KP while...
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    Thanks Rick. I wonder how much new CPU would...

    Thanks Rick.

    I wonder how much new CPU would cost? How about a new Mobo? I've not yet really even USED this Mac, and I'm now maybe looking at a new CPU or Mobo? I can't believe it.

    I have...
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    Hey... should I be alarmed that I HAVE a modem,...

    Hey... should I be alarmed that I HAVE a modem, yet Apple HW Test said it didn't detect one? That surely has nothing to do w/ this though.

    Jason
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    Keep in mind... that the third stick was pulled...

    Keep in mind... that the third stick was pulled from my OLD Mac... which I installed Jag on just fine. and it appears even more suspect then the first one listed, which is the Kingston mem.

    The...
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    Here are my results from all three 512mb sticks...

    Here are my results from all three 512mb sticks that I have.
    the first one is the Kingston Apple mem.
    the second is some korean crap that I'd like to get rid of.
    and the third is CompUSA ram.
    ...
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    I found it, and will run it now. Jason

    I found it, and will run it now.

    Jason
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    DIMM First Aid? Where is that located? I ran...

    DIMM First Aid? Where is that located? I ran Power Frax, and can't even begin to understand it. I just select selections over and over, zooming in each time. I guess it's working. But I don't know....
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    I'll try it. But logic makes me question: A....

    I'll try it. But logic makes me question:

    A. Why I've been able to install my other OS's if it's the HDD jumper.
    B. Why do I get kernal panics at different stages? Why have I gotten them viewing...
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    Could you re-clarify/re-word this for me? >...

    Could you re-clarify/re-word this for me?

    > One more step. While shutdown press the PMU reset button next to the battery > on the motherboard. Only press it once until after a restart has been
    >...
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    I'm positive I did the Open Firmware test right....

    I'm positive I did the Open Firmware test right. I'll run the apple HW test then. I don't know what causes a Kernal Panic, but it's even crashed on me while in Disk Utility. It's crashed viewing the...
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