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10-23-2001, 04:10 PM
I have about 500 mp3 songs in my iTunes libary. I have about 75 mp3 songs on my hard drive that are not in iTunes. Is there a fast and easy way to determine which files are only on the hard drive and not in iTunes - other than looking at them 1 by 1? Which I started but what a pain.

I am much more careful now and don't duplicate, keep partial mp3's etc. This all happened in the begining when I was not used to the iTunes program or mp3's.

So I have about 75 mp3's that are taking up space. I don't even know if I want them - well duh.. I don't even know what they are.

Also thus far I have enjoyed iTunes - but without spending a mint is there another application that is better to run mp3's?


[This message has been edited by rwm (edited 23 October 2001).]

10-23-2001, 08:39 PM

The easiest way I can figure to round up your stray MP3's would be to do a search on MP3, then when you go down the list move all the ones that aren't in the iTunes Music folder to the trash. Then create a desktop folder called Misc. MP3's or something similar, open the trash, select all and move 'em to that folder. Then place that folder inside the iTunes Music folder. Trash iTunes prefs & restart. When you open iTunes after the restart it should give you a dialog box saying it will find your MP3's and add them but not move them. Bingo! http://macgurus.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif Just make sure you reset the destination folder in iTunes prefs. i (sorry I couldn't help it. All this iStuff http://macgurus.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif) moved mine to my second HD, good thing too since I now have almost 3GB's of music. My boot drive is only 2GB http://macgurus.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_frown.gif

The biggest pain I've run into is adjusting the levels on the songs. Especially the newer stuff since it seems everyone is into the "my CD is louder than your CD" thing now. http://www.macgurus.com/ubb/mad.gif

The other problem I have seems to involve running dual monitors, OS 9 & a Voodoo5. I can't get full-screen visuals to work without disconnecting one monitor, restarting and zapping PRAM. Then the problem comes back after the next restart. iTunes keeps wanting an unsupported (160Hz!) refresh rate. Haven't found a workaround yet.

HTH LOL http://macgurus.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

I started out with nothing.
I still have most of it left!

10-23-2001, 10:41 PM
Let me ask this again - I think I confused you. http://www.macgurus.com/ubb/confused.gif and me.

There are no strays - I have a folder on the hard drive with all 575 mp3's and in that bunch there are 75 I want to toss but I don't know which ones.

The names on the mp3 file do not always match the name in iTunes when you import them. This makes it impossible to figure it out.

My soultion was to pull the first 10-15-20 files on the main HD mp3 folder - then look at iTunes to find the little "!" it displays when it does not find the file. So if I moved 10 files there would be 10 songs in the iTunes libary with a "!" http://macgurus.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif If there were only 9 then 1 of those files would be the file I want to trash.

This would work but is there a faster way? Or should I start the file by file process - it really would not take that long. A few hours a day for the next 10-15 years http://macgurus.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Any other thoughts


10-23-2001, 11:46 PM
Oh s--t. You do have a major problem. http://www.macgurus.com/ubb/eek.gif

Fortunately I didn't import a lot of stuff before I figured out that if you don't fill in the tags BEFORE you import that it gives the individual files cryptic names like "Track 1.mp3". The CDDB doesn't do this for you either! http://www.macgurus.com/ubb/mad.gif

I guess you could just let 'em play and when you get hear the ones you want, list,get info and fill in the tags section. This is what I've been doing to adjust the volume settings. One..... song..... at.... a..... time. http://macgurus.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_frown.gif In fact, I'm doing it as I type this post. Must have done about 10 songs already. http://macgurus.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif I refuse to sacrifice spelling & punctuation for typing speed. http://macgurus.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

However that doesn't fix the individual file names. I can't think of any way to do it other than go in and manually rename the files. I guess my volume issue isn't that bad after all. Wish I had a way out for you, man. http://macgurus.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_frown.gif

10-24-2001, 12:44 PM
Yes I figured iTunes out about 300 songs late - thats why I have 75 MIA's.

I too can not stand for misspelled words especially for something that is going to be permanent on my computer.

Why should I have Fleetwood Mac, or Fltmac wood, or Fltwood Mac etc. spelled 3-5 different ways. Makes no sense and very unorganized.

No it really won't take that long and if I start with the first mp3's downloaded to my hard drive that is where I will find most of them. I actually have two files one has about 300 songs all my first downloads and I bet 90% or more are in it.

I will get them 1 by 1

Thanks for your input http://macgurus.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

[This message has been edited by rwm (edited 24 October 2001).]

10-24-2001, 04:46 PM
Well maybe I am in a little deeper poop than I thought. http://macgurus.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_frown.gif

I first started collecting mp3's in quicktime format - then discovered iTuines - this should not make any difference they have all been transfered to iTunes and work fine.

My idea of pulling 10-15-20 mp3's at a time out of the file that iTunes is reading from is not seeming to work - I thought iTunes gave you that little "!" to the left of a song when it could not find the original.

I created a "dummy folder - within my mp3 file" and moved a few then all of mp3 files to it expecting to see lots of little "!" next to the songs indicating it could not find the original - but this did not happen. Am I thinking this out wrong?

Right know my iTunes player reads from the following: Storage:mp3:the the mp3 file

I moved everything to Storage:mp3:holding file:and put all the mp3's in here.

My train of thought was it would not reconize the files because they were not in the original or same place.


10-25-2001, 04:42 PM
Well I am making progress. It is a pain but will be nice to clean up. Here is the methood to my madness. Please if you can think of a way to speed this up let me know.

I have tried everything I can think of to hide mp3's from iTunes - I can't except this....

Take some songs, copy them to another folder on a different partition, delete original, then identify the songs in iTunes - that can't find the original indicated with the "!" and then move the original back.

It is working I started with 619 on the HD, and 538 in iTunes so 81 MIA's
I currently have 586 on the HD, and 529 in iTunes so 57 MIA's

What fun o fun... back to the salt mines

10-25-2001, 09:24 PM
Hey Randy:

You probably tried this already, but what about the "Show Song File" command?

Edit: spelling error http://macgurus.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

[This message has been edited by M.Brane (edited 25 October 2001).]

10-26-2001, 04:57 PM
I think I got it. The iTunes format was easy to cruise through. It was mostly the first quicktime mp3's that I downloaded. I did not have to copy the itunes format and go through that process. I am a happier camper now. Just a few tweaks left. http://macgurus.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

I started with 619 on the HD, and 538 in iTunes so 81 MIA's
I currently have 563 on the HD, and 544 in iTunes so 19 MIA's

Also added 24 from a+ CD

I think so anyway http://macgurus.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_frown.gif


11-08-2001, 03:50 AM
i think the itunes catagorizing sukz too..but itz free i guess..i just ignore my "library" now, and put everything i want in folders..even though i cant change the order or anything..