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almaink
02-06-2003, 10:43 AM
Can't understand this one.It seems that some apps in Jag can't prebind. When I run sudo update_prebinding -root / from Terminal I get 9 that can't be prebound and whenever they are used I get a console error like this one from MacJanitor

Feb 6 08:24:55 xx-Computer syslogd: restart
Feb 6 08:24:55 xx-Computer /usr/libexec/fix_prebinding: /Applications/MacJanitor.app/Contents/MacOS/MacJanitor could not be launched prebound.
Feb 6 08:24:55 xx-Computer /usr/libexec/fix_prebinding: /Applications/MacJanitor.app/Contents/MacOS/MacJanitor couldn’t be prebound in the past, and probably can’t be prebound now.
Feb 6 08:24:55 xx-Computer /usr/libexec/fix_prebinding: 2003-02-06 08:24:55 -0500: prebinding for MacJanitor done.
Feb 6 08:24:55 xxs-Computer /usr/libexec/fix_prebinding: /Applications/MacJanitor.app/Contents/Resources/MacJanitorServer could not be launched prebound.
Feb 6 08:25:02 xx-Computer /usr/libexec/fix_prebinding: Will check and redo_prebinding on /Applications/MacJanitor.app/Contents/Resources/MacJanitorServer
Feb 6 08:25:03 xx-Computer crashdump: Crash report written to: /Library/Logs/CrashReporter/fix_prebinding.crash.log
Feb 6 08:25:03 xx-Computer mach_init[2]: Server 0 in bootstrap c03 uid 0: ¬ě/usr/libexec/fix_prebinding¬î: exited as a result of signal 10 [pid 381]

What I don't understand is it says "prebinding for MacJanitor done" then says it can't be done.I reinstalled MacJanitor still get error.
Anyone know whats going on here?
almaink

TZ
02-06-2003, 10:59 AM
What happens when you run Repair Privilages from Disk Utility? and you're running 10.2.3?

I have my doubts about MacJanitor even though it only runs cron scripts, I've had enough circumstantial events to stop using it for now. The author does host his own support forum for Brickhouse and MacJanitor - worth leaving a note there.

But, why do you feel you need to? I think it is done as needed properly without manual intervention from what I've seen.

[This message has been edited by Gregory (edited 06 February 2003).]

almaink
02-06-2003, 11:28 AM
Gregory, Repair Privilages finds just the normal false problems as documented on Apples site. I'm with you about doubts on this app. Just wondering if because MacJanitor is not "Installed just copied to disk mabe that is why this is happening.Like I said it's not only MacJanitor but 8 others as well that for some reason will not prebind. Heres what I get in terminal-
Last login: Thu Feb 6 11:45:15 on console
Welcome to Darwin!
[xxx-Computer:~] michaelk% sudo update_prebinding -root /
Password:
2003-02-06 12:31:02.517 update_prebinding[438] Start of update_prebinding
2003-02-06 12:31:02.521 update_prebinding[438] Start of search for binaries in packages...
2003-02-06 12:31:02.521 update_prebinding[438] Discover library dependencies (0/1 complete)
2003-02-06 12:31:02.834 update_prebinding[438] Discover library dependencies (1/62 complete)
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2003-02-06 12:31:11.310 update_prebinding[438] Discover library dependencies (1/1 complete)
2003-02-06 12:31:11.311 update_prebinding[438] Build dependency graph (0/1 complete)
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2003-02-06 12:31:13.875 update_prebinding[438] update_prebinding (finding dependent libraries for /System/Library/PrivateFrameworks/DiscRecording.framework/Versions/A/DiscRecording): can't open file: /System/Library/PrivateFrameworks/DiscRecording.framework/Versions/A/DiscRecording (No such file or directory)
2003-02-06 12:31:14.406 update_prebinding[438] Build dependency graph (360/2417 complete)
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2003-02-06 12:31:29.681 update_prebinding[438] redo_prebinding on /System/Library/PrivateFrameworks/DiscRecording.framework/Versions/A/DiscRecording:can't open file: /System/Library/PrivateFrameworks/DiscRecording.framework/Versions/A/DiscRecording (No such file or directory).
2003-02-06 12:31:30.365 update_prebinding[438] Prebinding files (20/1152 complete)
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2003-02-06 12:31:38.919 update_prebinding[438] Prebinding files (740/1152 complete)
2003-02-06 12:31:39.291 update_prebinding[438] Prebinding files (760/1152 complete)
2003-02-06 12:31:39.762 update_prebinding[438] redo_prebinding on /Library/Image Capture/Scripts/Format 5x7:redoing the prebinding can't be done because file has a resource fork or type/creator: /Library/Image Capture/Scripts/Format 5x7.
2003-02-06 12:31:39.860 update_prebinding[438] Prebinding files (780/1152 complete)
2003-02-06 12:31:39.903 update_prebinding[438] redo_prebinding on /Library/Image Capture/Scripts/Format 3x5:redoing the prebinding can't be done because file has a resource fork or type/creator: /Library/Image Capture/Scripts/Format 3x5.
2003-02-06 12:31:39.922 update_prebinding[438] redo_prebinding on /Library/Image Capture/Scripts/Format 8x10:redoing the prebinding can't be done because file has a resource fork or type/creator: /Library/Image Capture/Scripts/Format 8x10.
2003-02-06 12:31:39.997 update_prebinding[438] redo_prebinding on /Library/Image Capture/Scripts/Build web page:redoing the prebinding can't be done because file has a resource fork or type/creator: /Library/Image Capture/Scripts/Build web page.
2003-02-06 12:31:40.145 update_prebinding[438] redo_prebinding on /Library/Image Capture/Scripts/Format 4x6:redoing the prebinding can't be done because file has a resource fork or type/creator: /Library/Image Capture/Scripts/Format 4x6.
2003-02-06 12:31:40.359 update_prebinding[438] Prebinding files (800/1152 complete)
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2003-02-06 12:31:59.474 update_prebinding[438] Prebinding files (940/1152 complete)
2003-02-06 12:32:02.284 update_prebinding[438] redo_prebinding on /Library/Printers/Lexmark/Lexmark Z65 Utility.app/Contents/MacOS/Lexmark Z65 Utility: prebinding can't be redone for: /Library/Printers/Lexmark/Lexmark Z65 Utility.app/Contents/MacOS/Lexmark Z65 Utility (for architecture ppc) because larger updated load commands do not fit (the program must be relinked)
2003-02-06 12:32:03.950 update_prebinding[438] Prebinding files (960/1152 complete)
2003-02-06 12:32:04.538 update_prebinding[438] redo_prebinding on /Applications/iTunes.app/Contents/Resources/iTunesHelper.app/Contents/MacOS/iTunesHelper: prebinding can't be redone for: /Applications/iTunes.app/Contents/Resources/iTunesHelper.app/Contents/MacOS/iTunesHelper (for architecture ppc) because larger updated load commands do not fit (the program must be relinked)
2003-02-06 12:32:06.513 update_prebinding[438] Prebinding files (980/1152 complete)
2003-02-06 12:32:09.470 update_prebinding[438] Prebinding files (1000/1152 complete)
2003-02-06 12:32:12.062 update_prebinding[438] Prebinding files (1020/1152 complete)
2003-02-06 12:32:12.826 update_prebinding[438] redo_prebinding on /Library/Printers/Lexmark/Lexmark Z45 Utility.app/Contents/MacOS/Lexmark Z45 Utility: prebinding can't be redone for: /Library/Printers/Lexmark/Lexmark Z45 Utility.app/Contents/MacOS/Lexmark Z45 Utility (for architecture ppc) because larger updated load commands do not fit (the program must be relinked)
2003-02-06 12:32:15.518 update_prebinding[438] Prebinding files (1040/1152 complete)
2003-02-06 12:32:16.839 update_prebinding[438] redo_prebinding on /Library/Printers/Lexmark/Lexmark Z55 Utility.app/Contents/MacOS/Lexmark Z55 Utility: prebinding can't be redone for: /Library/Printers/Lexmark/Lexmark Z55 Utility.app/Contents/MacOS/Lexmark Z55 Utility (for architecture ppc) because larger updated load commands do not fit (the program must be relinked)
2003-02-06 12:32:19.794 update_prebinding[438] Prebinding files (1060/1152 complete)
2003-02-06 12:32:23.705 update_prebinding[438] Prebinding files (1080/1152 complete)
2003-02-06 12:32:25.519 update_prebinding[438] redo_prebinding on /Applications/iPhoto.app/Contents/MacOS/iPhoto:can't open file: //System/Library/PrivateFrameworks/DiscRecording.framework/Versions/A/DiscRecording (No such file or directory).
2003-02-06 12:32:28.099 update_prebinding[438] Prebinding files (1100/1152 complete)
2003-02-06 12:32:28.107 update_prebinding[438] redo_prebinding on /Applications/iTunes.app/Contents/MacOS/iTunes:can't open file: //System/Library/PrivateFrameworks/DiscRecording.framework/Versions/A/DiscRecording (No such file or directory).
2003-02-06 12:32:33.808 update_prebinding[438] Prebinding files (1120/1152 complete)
2003-02-06 12:32:38.373 update_prebinding[438] Prebinding files (1140/1152 complete)
2003-02-06 12:32:43.451 update_prebinding[438] Update_prebinding done.
2003-02-06 12:32:43.451 update_prebinding[438] 0 files successfully prebound, 12 files unsuccessfully prebound.

almaink

[This message has been edited by almaink (edited 06 February 2003).]

TZ
02-06-2003, 05:15 PM
I have not run prebind since moving to Jaguar. I see apps do it on their own on first launch. There are a couple apps up on www.macupdate.com (http://www.macupdate.com) - Macaroni and Cronnix that you might want to inspect.

There is always the chance that some of what has been installed isn't playing nice. I've found it necessary to run Disk Utility (rather than the terminal even) to run a Repair Permissions after many (most?) installers.

There are LOTS of apps that are drag/copy installed, that's not an issue. Chimera, Mozilla, OmniWeb, Graphic Converter, VueScan... only those that need root, need to install into /System or /Library would require an installer.

A note from Cronnix, <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR> CronniX is a Aqua frontend to the powerful Unix tool "cron". Cron is a Unix system service that allows scheduled execution of scripts, programs, applications - in short anything that can be started from the command line. This includes OSX applications and AppleScripts. The source code is available.

What's New:
Version 2.0.2 really fixes the system crontab bug.

Requirements:
Mac OS X 10.2 or later. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
I'd like to see what happens with a clean installed OS X 10.2.3 (save to .dmg first so you can 're-use it later') and see what happens. Do a combined 10.2.4 (when it comes out soon) as a mini-system reinstall/repair fix.

Have you booted from another volume with OS X 10.2.3 and run Disk Utility? run Disk Warrior? There are some new books on OS X from O'Reilly and others that look worth investing and investigating. "Mac OS X Unleashed" is my hard core tomb right now.

TZ
02-09-2003, 08:50 AM
There is a note about OmniWeb 4.2-b1:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>ollowing are known issues with the current release of OmniWeb:

€ A bug in Mac OS X 10.2.3 can cause the fix_prebinding application (a part of the system software that runs in the background) to crash while OmniWeb is running. We have reported this issue to Apple and they are investigating it.
Release notes (http://www.omnigroup.com/applications/omniweb/releasenotes/) <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

almaink
02-09-2003, 09:51 AM
Gregory, I also saw that link about Omniweb which by the way I never use I didn't like the interface. these are the ones I worry about
2003-02-06 12:31:13.875 update_prebinding[438] update_prebinding (finding dependent libraries for /System/Library/PrivateFrameworks/DiscRecording.framework/Versions/A/DiscRecording): can't open file: /System/Library/PrivateFrameworks/DiscRecording.framework/Versions/A/DiscRecording (No such file or directory)
2003-02-06 12:32:02.284 update_prebinding[438] redo_prebinding on /Library/Printers/Lexmark/Lexmark Z65 Utility.app/Contents/MacOS/Lexmark Z65 Utility: prebinding can't be redone for: /Library/Printers/Lexmark/Lexmark Z65 Utility.app/Contents/MacOS/Lexmark Z65 Utility (for architecture ppc) because larger updated load commands do not fit (the program must be relinked)
2003-02-06 12:32:04.538 update_prebinding[438] redo_prebinding on /Applications/iTunes.app/Contents/Resources/iTunesHelper.app/Contents/MacOS/iTunesHelper: prebinding can't be redone for: /Applications/iTunes.app/Contents/Resources/iTunesHelper.app/Contents/MacOS/iTunesHelper (for architecture ppc) because larger updated load commands do not fit (the program must be relinked)
I have no problems burning cds but since two are system files why can't they be prebound? Program must be relinked? How do you do that?
Like I said before the Mac in question runs fine, it's fast and I hardly ever get the spinning ball anymore. Just wondering why I get these errors.
almaink

TZ
02-10-2003, 09:55 AM
I know this is off topic slightly, but it highlights my peeve with developers, Apple, who and whatever.
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Virex 7.2 update conflicts with latest Fink
The Fink project reports that the "Virex 7.2 package, currently being distributed free to all .Mac members, has a serious conflict with Fink. Fink users should not install Virex 7.2 under any circumstances. Installing it after Fink is installed will damage your Fink installation; installing it prior to Fink will make it impossible to install Fink without damaging Virex." <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

I found my system had sent out a 1MB 'message' and I don't know if it was my ISP or a rogue program (turned out that Mail requires "/System/Library/Frameworks/Message" folder and Message file (a folder and file with same name) in order to work.

"Troubleshooting" OS X is a nightmare. Yes, programmers like myself are loath to 'document' and lack the time, and publishing and making it available usually means hiring tech writers, which add cost. And the move is to add more features and getting them out, making it longer and more difficult to test everything.

Do you realize that SoftRAID first hoped that 10.1 would make it possible to ship an OS X version? That was what, 18 months ago?

If software from a 3rd party that has Apple's implicit 'endorsement' by being offered through the "dotMac" service is so bad as this sounds and seems (and that it isn't just Norton AV etc that have trouble adding things to the OS at a low enough level to work for their intended use and purpose), then something is wrong with providing APIs and documentation - at the least.

Which adds to the cost and trouble of building drivers and firmware for video cards so that a marginal marketshare product can seem like more trouble than its worth? Jaguar (cars) are high cost, high maintenance, but haven't been "oh, its less than 4% marketshare, why bother?" syndromed. It is a problem.

At one time, making a living off millions of Mac users was okay. When did that change? Or that there was an easy to use system to get online so that The Source and later CompuServe had a disproportionate Mac user base - they were happy to have us.

almaink
02-10-2003, 10:48 AM
Gregory, I just found this¬ń Maintain Your Cron.app on VersionTracker. Seems to do the same job as MacJanitor but no prebinding error.Apple needs to get there SHXX together with OSX. To many issues yet for me to go full time, as much as I'd like to.My version of Trapwise in classic now takes 10 times as long as OS9 to do the job. The "fix" from Creo is to dissable one of my two processers! If I wanted to do that I wouldn't have bought a DP800.
almaink

TZ
02-10-2003, 11:00 AM
X11 support in 10.3 come September...

"This is great news for Mac OS X users like ourselves who have UNIX backgrounds (in our case, primarily Solaris and FreeBSD), and for users of the various UNIX-like operating systems, particularly Linux, who have been waiting for Apple to not only develop its own X11 codebase, but also to widely promote it to developers and users." www.macosrumors.com (http://www.macosrumors.com)

Hardware accelerated X11.