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titanium
03-28-2001, 10:37 PM
I'm going to upgrade my hard drives very soon (within the next month). I'm leaning toward the IDE drives mainly becase they are cheaper and I won't be running any serious apps off of them (mainly games). I have an 8500/180, now with the XLR8 G3 466 Carrier Card up and running, and was wondering which IDE drives are the fastest and how I can run them (I'm not too familiar with IDE). What PCI card will I need? Which hard drives are best?

bif
03-29-2001, 05:28 PM
try here to get knowledgeable: http://www.mac-upgrade.com/upgrade_guy/upguy012999.html
it is ref'd from the SCSI pages.
There are lots of cheap IDE drives, but fast and good quality seem to be slow in coming.

Louie
03-29-2001, 07:49 PM
It would be wise to check this compatibility data base http://forums.xlr8yourmac.com/drivedb/search.drivedb.lasso . They don't all work right with Macs.

titanium
03-30-2001, 08:41 PM
Could I get a SCSI card for around the same price as the Sonnet ATA/66 host adapter that would be just as fast as ATA/66? If so, does it support 10,000 RPM drives? Also, is there any way to run ATA/100's on an 8500? Sorry for so many questions, but I'm just not familiar with all the specifics.

Thanks in Advance.

Louie
03-30-2001, 09:00 PM
SCSI is classified in many more ways than just RPM. Go here http://www.macgurus.com/ , click some links and do some reading.

magician
04-15-2001, 07:04 PM
yes (http://www.macgurus.com/beta/showrampage.cgi?liquidations.html).

yes, and yes (http://www.macgurus.com/beta/showrampage.cgi?liquidations.html).

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Mactacular
04-26-2001, 05:35 PM
ATA drives are a great solution. I personally, as a Mac user and big gamer, recommend the VST Ultratek/66 ATA board, its around $89 with SoftRAID (sells for just $145 separately). It delivers great speed on PowerMacs, especially when used with a fast IBM Deskstar 75GXP drive. It gives SCSI speed at a fraction of the price. I am using the Ultratek board and a 75GXP drive in my PowerMac 8600, which I cram full of games that go up to around 1/2-1GB in space. It's really easy to use the ATA setup with that card and drive, just install the card and drive and connect them, use the Apple drive utility to format the drive, and you can actually just drag and drop' the old hard drive's data to the new one. I did that recently, without any type of data corruption or anything. It also copied the files rather quickly. You can also use even cheaper ATA drives from your local PC store, where a 15GB drive can run at about $39. The ATA setup is great for the gamer, game installations take up more and more space, so you need the most storage you can get. ATA solves that. If you are a gamer, you don't need a SCSI setup. You just need lots and lots of storage.

Also, ATA/100 is fully backwards compatible with ATA/66, no adapters required. Unlike SCSI, ATA does not need to have good, usually pricey, high quality cables and terminators as SCSI needs to function properly. ATA setups will work just fine with the included cables with the ATA controller cards, as the Ultratek card includes two ATA cables. ATA card- around $89, 46GB 75GXP ATA drive- around $199, you do the math. ATA is great, 46GB w/ cables and a controller card for about $290. A much smaller, around 9GB SCSI drive may cost $290! And then you need a controller card, good terminators, and good cables. I once only would touch SCSI hardware, but ATA has improved greatly in recent months, lots of storage and speed for a lower price than SCSI. SCSI is better suited for audio and video editors. I vote ATA, best solution for gamers on the market. If you get the ATA setup, I'd be interested to see how you like it. Keep on gaming.

And a question, what video card are you using? A faster video card speeds up games even more.


[This message has been edited by Mactacular (edited 26 April 2001).]